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Mets' woes not as bad as they seem

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How will the Mets do in 2009?

  • Championship, baby!
    33%
  • Make the playoffs
    30%
  • Winning season
    23%
  • Time to rebuild
    14%

Total Votes: 173

How do you fix the New York Mets? David Wright says the team needs a facelift, but is the situation really that troublesome?

In 2008, the Mets finished one game behind the Brewers in the wild card chase, three games behind the World Series champion Phillies in the NL East. They've got some excellent position players, they've got Johan Santana, John Maine and Mike Pelfrey anchoring the rotation. True, Pedro Martinez and Oliver Perez are free agents, so they'll need to add at least one starter.

But the real problem, obviously, is the bullpen. Billy Wagner is out for the season, and his Mets career is probably over, so GM Omar Minaya has to add a closer. Luckily for him there are some options out there.

If the Mets decide Francisco Rodriguez is too costly, they could go for Brian Fuentes, or Trevor Hoffman, or heck, why not take a stab at Kerry Wood?

They might even be able to pry J.J. Putz away from the rebuilding Mariners in a trade.

Adding a top-notch closer would, as Jerry Manuel told the New York Times, "put everybody in their normal places." Meaning the bullpen might not need much more tweaking after that.

So cheer up Mets fans, the situation really isn't as bad as you think it is.

PAPI SAYS MANNY HAD TO GO
David Ortiz shared some candid views on Manny Ramirez in an interview on Boston radio station WEEI-850 AM. Thanks to Ian Browne of MLB.com, we can read about it here.

While Ortiz admitted that the Red Sox "probably" would've won the World Series had Ramirez stayed in Boston, he also said it was time for Manny to go.

"He wasn't happy here, and everybody knows that," Ortiz said. "When the relationship gets to that point, you have to make a move just like we did."

Ortiz also said he counseled Ramirez to open up more to the media, arguing that the slugger's unwillingness to talk was a reason he had never won an MVP award.

As far as Manny's next destination, it appears the Dodgers are still the only team to express an interest at this point, and agent Scott Boras has laughed at L.A.'s initial offers.

One thing we do know is this … the Nationals don't want him.

And neither do the Marlins.

Asked about cyberspace rumors that the Marlins are planning to make a run at free-agent left fielder Manny Ramirez, Beinfest laughed.

"Makes for good Internet stuff, I guess,'' he said.


ANYONE WANT TO RENT A 300-GAME WINNER?
It looks like Randy Johnson might not be going for his 300th career victory as a member of the Diamondbacks. The Big Unit was 11-10 with a 3.91 ERA last season. Not great by his standards, for sure, but he did manage 184 innings.

According to the East Valley Tribune, Johnson is looking for a 1-year $10 million deal. But the D-backs have budgeted only $3-$5 million. Something's gotta give.

The D-backs, for their part, seem content to let Johnson walk.

"I think we're comfortable," Byrnes said. "There are a lot of ways to solve that. If Yusmiero Petit ends up as the leading candidate" for the final spot in the starting rotation, "we could see that."


OTHER NEWS AND NOTES

  • Three writers need to lose their voting rights. Edinson Volquez is NOT a rookie.

  • The White Sox might try to deal Jermaine Dye. Guess they're tired of throwing a bunch of potted plants into the field.

  • The Dodgers won't trade Russell Martin. Ned Colletti actually had to address that rumor? If he considered trading Martin, he should fire himself.

  • Rockies fans search for solace in the wake of the Matt Holliday trade.

  • Carl Pavano open to returning to Marlins. In related news, Drew Henson is open to returning to the Yankees.

  • Latest potential Schilling landing spot (according to him): Arizona. Next week: Orioles!
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    {"commentId":4052095,"authorDomain":"rwdavis22461"}

    We need alot of fixing no we do not need a massive over turn but if it was one season that we missed ok you can say what the Mets are saying but two years in a row is telling story. I feel we need two starters and at least a closer and 3 bullpen guys. then about the offense . We need a power hitter. I am not sure if it would be a guy like Phillies ex LF but i would accept him if we get Frankie Rodruez to close. I like Orlando Hudson for second. But if we have to go in at first with Castillo ok . But hopefully we have a plan b if he fails.

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      Reply#1 - Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:44 PM EST
      {"commentId":4053606,"authorDomain":"csaw6988"}

      But all those excellent position players didn't produce when it mattered most.  The lack of a closer is not what stopped the Mets from winning.

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      Reply#2 - Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:25 PM EST
      {"commentId":4059694,"authorDomain":"harkins"}

      I know normally such arguments usually aren't so simple. But in this case, I think it's pretty obvious that even a marginal bullpen situation would've put the Mets into the playoffs. Just compare:

      The Mets blew 29 saves in 2008.
      The Brewers blew 26 saves.
      The Phillies blew 15 saves (Lidge was perfect)

      Now, their records:

      Phillies 92-70 (NL East champs)
      Brewers 90-72 (NL wild card)
      Mets 89-73 (1 game out of the playoffs, 3 games out of division title)

      Protect even a few more leads and you don't need the so-called "clutch" hitting you are talking about. That's how close it is.

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      Reply#3 - Fri Nov 14, 2008 1:49 AM EST
      {"commentId":4060007,"authorDomain":"thevineofhob"}

      The Mets actually remind me a lot of the Phillies from last offseason. The Mets have three young (ok two young, one less young) stars in Wright, Reyes and Beltran. They have a lefty ace in Santana, and a solid if not spectacular rotation behind him. They have an outfield hole to fill, and an entire bullpen to rebuild (the Phillies pen was pretty atrocious in 2007, which only goes to show how inconsistent relief pitching is).

      I think the Mets best bet is to follow the Philadelphia blueprint. Don't worry about buying a star for their outfield, try to trade or find a free agent with some unfulfilled potential like the Phillies did with Jason Werth. For the bullpen, buy or trade for a reliable closer, then fill the rest of the pen with quantity and sort it all out during the season to see who sticks or not. If you've noticed, the best bullpens aren't exactly constructed but just tend to happen. Signing the Kyle Farnsworths of the world tend to not work out. Hell, look at even the Yankees, after they jettisoned LaTroy Hawkins and traded Farnsworth, their bullpen was Rivera and a bunch of young nobodies, but that pen was probably the strength of the Yankees last year. The Phillies took the same strategy, they had Lidge and then a bunch of nobodies.

      The Mets are set in that they have stars, and a few holes. But if you already have the stars, it's much easier to improve the roster, because all you need to do is find even average talent to replace those holes. That's much easier then being say the Toronto Blue Jays who completely lack stars, so there are no obvious ways to really improve the roster that don't involved spending $100 million.

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        Reply#4 - Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:56 AM EST
        {"commentId":4060791,"authorDomain":"pj1963"}

        Mets sux

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          Reply#5 - Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:24 AM EST
          {"commentId":4174185,"authorDomain":"bernieblue34"}

          The Mets showed for the 3rd year in a row that they are heartless, nonclutch and chokers. Their problems they face are mostly psychological. On paper they are as good as anyone but championships are not won on paper.

          I agree they need a face lift and it has to start by obtaining KRod. I don't care about 'the money' and neither should the Mets because we the fans are the ones paying for their salaries especially with the new ball park opening next year. They need to say goodbye to almost everyone in the bullpen. I would keep Joe Smith and get rid of everyone else.

          Finally they need to get a couple of hitters that can hit in the clutch. Trading David Wright may not be a popular move in NY but if they can get some A+ players with some heart it may be something to consider. Wright has become another A. ROD with outstanding numbers but chokes in the really big moments. I would actually consider Manny for 3 years..

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            Reply#6 - Sun Nov 23, 2008 2:15 AM EST
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